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5 июля 2023 • Maksimus L.
Достоинства: Хороший вариант из масмаркетаНедостатки: не обнаружилКомментарий: Почему так дорого? На прошлой неделе взял в ДНС за 40к, при этом он был единственный у них на всю сеть
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30 августа 2022 • Александр Н.
Достоинства: Лучший в своем роде.Недостатки: Идеален.Комментарий: Осталост только шлем и кабину доделать для полного погружения, вр есть уже. Исключительно для реалистичных симуляторов, для аркад ...
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1 февраля 2013 • Николай Балышкин
Достоинства: Отличное качество изготовления джойстика. Сразу, когда забираешь коробку, чувствуется солидность по весу килограмм в 11-12. РУС ...Недостатки: К минусам я отнесу шум единственной свободной оси на РУДе. В нулевом положении она "подрагивает", что делает невозможным ставить н...Комментарий: Опыт использования джойстиков с 2005 года и это лучший из тех, что я перепробовал за эти годы. Отзыв для вас составил 159BAG_Civi...
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9 января 2013 • С К
Достоинства: - качественные материалы. хороший крепкий пластик и металл. ручкой можно убивать врагов. - качество сборки. если не брать в расче...Недостатки: - про педальки уже говорилось, надо покупать. - занимает реально много места. надо продумывать куда его ставить, чтобы было удобн...Комментарий: очень очень хороший джойстик. покупал его для DCS A-10c. встал, как родной. определился кнопками "как надо" сам процентов на 80%....
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Будьте морально готовы раскошелиться на педали и сразу прибавляйте цену их покупки с цене джоя.\nВторой момент, о котором почему-то не пишут, это жесткость джойстика. Он очень тугой и усилие, которое приходится прилагать для его отклонения, значительное. Гораздо большее, чем на любом другом джойстике. Это не недостаток, но есть нюанс. В реалистичных авиа симуляторах это не доставляет дискомфорта, наоборот, создает приятное ощущение, позволяет чувствовать самолет. Но чем аркаднее игра, тем неприятнее ощущения. В реалистичных симуляторах никогда не возникает необходимости энергичной работы РУСом с переводом его от одного крайнего положения в другое, диаметрально противоположное, крайнее положение. В реалистичном авиа симуляторе, даже в ближнем бою на сверхманевренном МиГ-29 такие действия практически не выполняются, движения РУСом плавные и спокойные. Но вот в аркадных играх, где физика не реалистична, дергать РУС в разные стороны приходится регулярно. 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