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Для бега гаджетов навалом , с плаванием сложнее. Были еще Swimovate , так вот - гармин круче, и по интерфейсу , и по качеству подсчета.","pro":"Пользуюсь полтора года. Все устраивает. Для ежедневной носки подходят слабо - очень скудный фунционал, тока в бассейне. Валяются в кармане Arena Fastpack 2.1 , сауну выдерживают. Стили плавания определяют корректно. Эксплуатация 3 раза в неделю по 1-1,5 часа , батарейка до сих пор живая.","contra":"Конский ценник в РФ. 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Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
-Эргономичное исполнение с четким выбором кнопок управления. -Возможность передачи данных в компьютер и всестороннего подробного анализа тренировок на воде в программе Garmin Connect. -Четкое и быстроеопределение окончания проплываемого бассейна и безошибочное определение проплываемого расстояния. - Оперативно рассчитываемая и постранично отображаемая информация о текущих и общих параметрах плавания, включая оценку его эффективности по показателю SWOLF и индексу эффективности. - Исполнение источника питания в виде широко распространенной в продаже заменяемой батареи CR 2032, позволяющий использовать монитор в качестве наручных часов. При чем, не смотря на двойное назначение, «живучесть» батареи, по заявлению производителя, не менее года. А встроенная функция отключения главного «энергопотребителя» - экрана – позволяет надеяться на еще более продолжительное время работы от одной батареи. - Обновляемые версии прошивки и фирменная гарантия от Garmin.
Недостатки:
-Отсутствие вибро и звукового оповещения о происходящих событиях: времени или длине проплываемой дистанции. -Звуковой сигнал достаточно тихий при отсечке интервалов. Не всегда слышится после нажатия на кнопку «пауза». -Очень специфичная русификация меню.
Комментарий:
Возможные сбои и ошибки в регистрации результатов. Параметры движения Garmin Swim регистрируются с помощью трехмерного акселерометра, реагирующего на скорость и направление движения рукой. Движения должны быть достаточно динамичные и четкие. 1. В процессе плавания по прямой не следует производить движение рукой, не характерное для плавания - хватание рукой за шнур, касание лица, задержка в гребке. Ошибка - разнонаправленное по вектору и скорости, "хаотичные" для акселерометра нагрузки. Сбой - ошибочное определение разворота и направления движения, не фиксация гребка. 2. При развороте следует акцентированно и четко оттолкнуться от бортика, не производя движений рукой в противополжном движению направлении. Ошибка - множественная фиксация разворота.Сбой-неучет разворота или множественный учет одного и того же разворота. 3. Малая амплитуда движения рукой, "недотягивание" гребка при положении руки сзади и не четкий вынос гребковой руки вперед, медленная скорость движения руки. (например, пронос руки по кругу сбоку, не распрямление в локте, не дотягивание гребковой руки до бедра). Ошибка-не фиксация гребка. Сбой - не превышение порога чувствительности акселерометра. 4. Остановка в бассейне на середине дорожки или движение в обратном направлении до касания бортика. Ошибка - не фиксация дорожки. Сбой - разнонаправленное воздействие силы на акселерометр. Касаемо неточного определения стиля плавания. В алгоритм идентификации траектории движения руки в пространстве и времени - а именно так определяется стиль плавания - заложены вполне "узкие" диапазоны отклонений. Параметры траекторий, вероятнее всего" "списывались" с движений подготовленных пловцов. По этой причине более-менее значимые отклонения в движении руки в процессе плавания могут приводить к некорректному определению стиля и автоматически соотносить его к "вольному". К стати, больше ошибок такого определения относится к завершению тренировок или при скоростных усилиях, когда техника плавания "разбалтывается".
9 лет назадСергиев Посад
Увеличить
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Пользуюсь 4 года, использую иногда по 5 раз в неделю по два часа, под горячим душем не снимаю и никаких протечек. Батарейка в среднем держит год - в зависимости от интенсивности использования. Стиль определяет точно - кроль с баттерфляем не путает даже на первых 25 метрах, а с брассом вообще никогда не путает (вопрос к технике плавания). По поводу отсутствия встроенного оптического пульсометра не страдаю, т.к. в воде они все работают некорректно.
Недостатки:
нельзя подключить нагрудный датчик HRM Swim, т.к. модель часов очень старая
Комментарий:
Для плавания по качеству и функциональности альтернатив гарминовским девайсам я пока не вижу.
5 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Надёжность, точность, долгое время работы от батарейки, неплохой софт.
Недостатки:
Скидывают данные только через комп (usb адаптер Ant+), причем не всегда с 1го раза... Но, может, тут виноват Mac). Пару-тройку раз (за 5 лет) сбрасывались полностью при нажатии на какую то кнопку.. Помогала замена батарейки, как не странно.
Комментарий:
Классные часы для плавания в бассейне. Покупал за, кажется, 6тр, в 2014 году с рук, слегка б\у. За эти деньги - супер. Плаваю примерно 4-10 км в неделю, в сауну почти каждый раз захожу)) в этих часах. Кроль\брасс\спина - определяют точно. Если комбинируешь - пишут Mixed. Кол-во гребков, бассейнов и время считают исключительно точно, если не отвлекаться (не нырять, не стукаться и тп). Плавал в море. Тоже всё нормально, хотя расстояние не считают, понятно, так как нет GPS. Один раз протекли, но виноват сам: не закрыл плотно крышку после замены батарейки. В результате, после просушки, работают нормально, но на дисплее навсегда появилась узкая вертикальная мёртвая полоска... около 2 пикселей примерно. Почти не мешает. Сейчас думаю над Garmin Swim 2. Альтернатива - Instinct.. Fenix дороговат. Немного сомневаюсь, будут ли так же точно считать?
4 года назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Отличные часы для плавания в бассейне! Работают безупречно, если соблюдать несколько простых правил. Не менять стиль плавания на протяжении одного отрезка. Энергично отталкиваться от поворотной стенки. Выполнять гребки технично. Впрочем, плывущим абы как,и часы, в общем то, особо не нужны. Не ударяться рукой, на которую надеты часы, с другими пловцами и с разделительным канатом. Сейчас у меня вторые часы. Первые прослужили 4 года в режиме 10-15 часов плавания в месяц. "Умерли" по моей вине-неплотно закрыл заднюю крышку при очередной замене батарейки. Кстати, хватает на пару лет. Ремешок в порядке, слегка лишь затвердел.
Недостатки:
Не претензии к этой модели, а то, какие функции ей не помешали бы. Пульсомер. Но не проблема-в конце отрезка можно посчитать пульс. Метроном - подача звукового сигнала через заданные промежутки времени, как у девайса Finis Tempotreiner. Помогает держать нужный темп на дистанции. Интерфейс не самый удачный. До второстепенных функций сразу не доберёшься. Секундомером, например, пользовался лишь раз, изучая часы после покупки. Ну и цена на них в наших магазинах завышена, конечно.
Комментарий:
Во многих отзывах читал о запотевании стекла.Часы отлично справляются с водой, давящей на них в бассейне, но против водяных паров они бессильны.Столкнулся с этим явлением, когда оставил часы вместе с мокрыми плавками в пластиковом пакете.Лечится просушкой часов с открытой крышкой. Теперь всегда вытираю часы после использования, предварительно продув кнопки и крышку. И храню их в жестком вентилируемом футляре.
6 лет назадМосква
Увеличить
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
Симпотный дизайн корпуса, заявленные функции и акселерометр для счета количества бассейнов на дистанции.
Недостатки:
Нельзя оставлять в пакете с влажными вещами. Протекают, не смотря на бережное использование.
Комментарий:
Покупал ради акселерометра, который определяет разворот у стенки бассейна, что позволяет автоматически определять пройденную дистанцию. После двух месяцев использования в бассейне протекли. Сейчас прочитал в сети, что нельзя с такими часами ходить в баню, в горячий душ, также нельзя прыгать с бортика. А я как раз, перед тем как "утопить" их, прыгнул в бассейн с бортика. После чего на середине тренировки часы стали плохо реагировать на нажатия кнопок, а потом под стеклом на экране появилась вода и всё... В общем, рассчитывал от такого прибора для плавания большей надежности под водой. P.S. В продолжение истории.. После того как просушил часы, "утопил" их второй раз без ныряния с бортика, просто проплыв 4 бассейна. Тогда уж решил просушить их хорошенько. Держал 4 дня в открытом виде на теплом полу. Но потом при установке батарейки обратно обнаружил, что корпус расклеился! Просто задняя часть корпуса отошла от основного (фотку прилагаю). Причем если ее приложить обратно, то она никак не фиксируется и вываливается. Как будто клеящий пломбирующий слой полностью высох и потерял клеящие свойства. На ощупь он был мягенький, как герметик, но совсем не липкий! Я вообще не понимаю, как она раньше-то держался? В итоге, попробовал водостойким клеем просто хотя бы собрать корпус обратно. Про водонепроницаемость речи теперь вообще не идет...
6 лет назадМосква
Комментарий 100722338
ывоары ЫВарпыорв, фигасе.. я 4 года с ними и с бортика ныряю и под горячим душем, даже об стену била неудачно махнув рукой (в баню правд не ходила) и всё отлично.. думаю вам надо было в сервис их отвезти сразу после протечки - это брак 100%
ывоары ЫВарпыорв, фигасе.. я 4 года с ними и с бортика ныряю и под горячим душем, даже об стену била неудачно махнув рукой (в баню правд не ходила) и всё отлично.. думаю вам надо было в сервис их отвезти сразу после протечки - это брак 100%
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Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
Пользуюсь полтора года. Все устраивает. Для ежедневной носки подходят слабо - очень скудный фунционал, тока в бассейне. Валяются в кармане Arena Fastpack 2.1 , сауну выдерживают. Стили плавания определяют корректно. Эксплуатация 3 раза в неделю по 1-1,5 часа , батарейка до сих пор живая.
Недостатки:
Конский ценник в РФ. Есть понимание, что неремонтопригодны. "Жабам" не подойдут. Если баттерфляем плыть 25 м - определяют как "вольный стиль", от 50 м - определение уже корректное.
Комментарий:
Хоть появилось понимание сколько проплываю, чем и как, до этого были TomTom Multisport - вот где трэш... поэтому от мультиспортивных моделей решено было отказаться и купить "отраслевые" часы за недорого (за бугром), так что если сломались - выкинуть и купить новые. Для бега гаджетов навалом , с плаванием сложнее. Были еще Swimovate , так вот - гармин круче, и по интерфейсу , и по качеству подсчета.
5 лет назадСанкт-Петербург
Опыт использования:
несколько месяцев
Достоинства:
- едва ли не единственные часы, изменяющие количество гребков. - хорошо сидят на руке, не мешаются при плавании. показывают время)
Недостатки:
- иногда неверно определяют стиль плавания, проблема происходит с идентификацией брасса- иногда показывает спина. -временами не срабатывают на начало движения. после этого в программе появляются пробелы и паузы. сбиваются на 10% дистанции. - при окончании дистанции необходимо ставить на паузу, так как не определит остановку и секундомер не остановится. (очень актуально на коротких- четвертаках и полтосах) - при плавании сразу невозможно посмотреть текущее время - нужно нажать кнопку переключения к часам, после этого вернуться к плаванию. неудобно при плавании в режиме. -не имеет возможность показывать месячный, годовой "проплыв". только недельный. -программа синхронизации с компом иногда подглючивает, по этому время сбрасывания данных иногда 10 минут. -интерфейс анализа не доработан, не хватает необходимых настроек и выделения заплывов для анализа. предположим отделения разных фаз тренировки или тренировки и быстрого заплыва. -не хватает пульсометра
Комментарий:
Пользуюсь часами около 1,5 месяцев. в процессе эксплуатации понял, что это всего лишь дорогая игрушка, программно не доработана, жду обновления микропрограммы. Надеюсь большая часть косяков будет исправлена. Прикладное значение часы имеет, но с некоторыми оговорками. 1. считает бассейны, если не сбивается. 2. актуально показывает раскладку по времени проплыва бассейна, если сработает счетчик начала движения и его окончания. 3. К часам надо привыкать, думаю, что положение руки при выходе сказывается на определении стиля плавания, немного другой угол и ты плывешь уже не брассом, а почему-то на спине. ссылка на заплыв:http://connect.garmin.com/activity/394913695
10 лет назадМосква
Куплен на Маркете
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
теперь не надо считать гребки и бассейны.
Недостатки:
иногда путает кроль с брассом (в автоопределении стиля)
Комментарий:
часами доволен.
6 лет назадМосква
Опыт использования:
более года
Достоинства:
- отлично выполняют свои функции - четко считают количество проплытых бассейнов, если не менять стиль в процессе проплыва - надежные - отличный дизайн - беспроблемная синхронизация с копьютером и облачным сервисом
Недостатки:
- при сгибе запястья иногда произвольно нажимаются кнопки, но не часто (попробовал сделать это специально, не получилось) - через полтора года непрерывной носки и активного использования сломалась шлевка на ремешке и сам ремешок стал трескаться в местах сгиба на запястье. Запасной ремешок на ebay 2700 р. - через 6-7 мес. стерлось изображение с синей кнопки, хотя без него даже лучше
Комментарий:
Отличные часы очень их люблю и ношу постоянно. Но с ремешком надо что-то делать, или новый заказывать или другой подбирать.
8 лет назадРостов-на-Дону
Опыт использования:
менее месяца
Достоинства:
Офигительные часики для плавания))) ура наконец-то буду плавать не одна, а с помощником! Можно теперь "расслабиться в бассейне"! а теперь по существу: сами считает сколько бассейнов я проплыла дает мне оценку эффективности (сами часы как-то хитро это выводят, без моего вмешательства) считают количество гребков напоминают мне о тренировках я ношу их как обычные часы есть секундомер батарейки хватит на год, по крайне мере так написано О, чуть не забыла, почти самое главное: они не слетают с руки,они не мешают плаванию, а так же легкие тонкие. То есть, по внешнему виду даже самым капризным подойдет...
Недостатки:
Опять нет пульса в воде, а я так надеялась что хоть в этих он будет. Кто ж из производителей первое это сделает. На открытой воде сами понимаете они покажут только гребки и время.
Комментарий:
Всем советую! Отличная вещь! Даже в бассейн стало интереснее ходить.
11 лет назад
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